Sometimes you need to take a silly quiz to learn a point.
That's why I like The Ultimate Zombie Apocalypse Survival Quiz. Now, of course, the quiz is in jest but it brings up several important points when we talk about pathogens and your susceptibility to them. How are zombies often made-- by an infectious disease process-- at least in books and movies.
But it also examines survival techniques. Have you thought through aspects of survival in your mind? The more you rehearse emergencies-- the more apt you are to act. This is one reason why we practice "mock codes" in the hospital setting. Thinking through your response on a mannequin several times makes it less scary when a real person is involved.
Let's look at several of these factors.
Your age. Typically the ends of the spectrum are more susceptible to illness. The very old and young for instance. This is why we are super cautious in pediatrics during an infant's first 30 days of life. A very low temp (anything 100.4 or greater) is concerning and will likely buy the infant a septic work-up. You can read a post I did about newborn septic work-ups here and why babies in their first two months of life should be sheltered in-- particularly in the winter.
Where you live. People living more close together have the opportunity to spread disease more easily. This is why when school season starts we see an increase in illness-- things like strep throat and meningitis. Because you're lumping 20-30 (or more) kids in a classroom. Close contact=ease of transmission.
Your general state of health: Obviously, someone who has a healthy immune system and good general health will be able to fight off infection more easily.
Your occupation: When I first started working in pediatrics they warned me about the "Children's Crud." It's not unusual for healthcare workers (those working taking care of people with infectious disease) to get sick a lot in their first couple of months. Suddenly, their immune system is exposed to LOTS of new bugs it hasn't seen before. Now, I don't get sick very often because my immune system has been primed for several different types of pathogens. However, my husband came down with a very common pediatric infectious illness from one of our daughters. "Why didn't you get sick?" he asked. It's simple-- my immune system has seen this bug literally hundreds of times and it laughs it off now.
When I first took the Zombie Survival quiz-- I answered fairly honestly with my current state of health. My chances of surviving a zombie apocalypse was 78.8%.
When I took it a second time-- making my health and survival knowledge much worse my score was 35.7%
How about you? How well is your body at fighting off infection? How well do you think you'd survive a Zombie Apocalypse?
If you take the quiz and post your score-- there will be a chance to win one copy of either Proof or Poison-- your choice. Winner announced Monday, July 29th! Must live in the USA.
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Wednesday, October 31, 2012
Real Life Zombies?!?
Writer Dale Eldon often poses medical questions to me but
one question that seemed pertinent for his writing vice was whether or not
zombies are a real-life medical possibility. The truth, even for the fiction
writer, has to be grounded in realism for the reader to buy in. You either have
to work from reality or create a believable story world from scratch.
Here's a post I did for him on The Walking Dead.
So, are there real life examples of something dead
coming back to life? In fact, there are. There are three aspects to consider.
One: Let’s examine
the compliant aspect
of being a zombie. Is it possible to create a wholly compliant individual?
Someone without individual will power?
The
answer seems to be yes.
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Let’s consider TTX, the neurotoxin found in
the blue-ringed Octopus. If this toxin is absorbed through the skin, it’s akin
to having a frontal lobotomy and may lead to a compliant individual. Your
personal zombie minion. You can find out more about TTX at the Writer’s
Forensic Blog hosted by D.P. Lyle: http://writersforensicsblog.wordpress.com/2011/08/17/q-and-a-what-are-the-toxic-effects-of-a-poisonous-octopus-bite/.
Two: Someone that
is alive is actually declared dead.
One truly frightening aspect is that sometimes lay
people and even medical professionals aren’t all that great at determining whether
or not a person has a pulse. This influenced changes to how the American Heart
Association teaches CPR. Now, it’s encouraged to not spend more than 10 seconds
trying to figure out whether or not a person has a pulse. If they’re not
responding to you and you can’t find one—just start CPR. If they are conscious,
they’ll let you know. If not, they likely need CPR anyway.
We’ve all heard the legends of corpses being found
with nail marks in the lid. Well, how about the story from 2011 of a South African
man who was presumed dead and brought to the morgue by his family and placed in
the freezer-- only to wake up about a day later amongst the truly dead and
decomposing. You can find that story here: http://abcnews.go.com/International/south-african-dead-man-wakes-screaming-day-morgue/story?id=14154534.
Three: Are there
real-life examples of things that are truly dead—no pulse, no breathing, no
brain activity—yet, come back to life. Let’s take the case of the wolf spider. A French researcher, Julien Petillon, decided to find out and submerged them in water for several hours—like 16. Now dead, they did come back to life. Check out more on this story and what he says about the 16 hour time frame and its significance at: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30348224/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/drowned-spiders-come-back-dead/.
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So
yes, I would say there are examples of zombie behavior in our world. The
compliant individual, those presumed dead but still alive, and those that have
died yet are reanimated.
What
zombie-like plot can you come up with based on these real-life examples?
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Monday, October 31, 2011
Creating a Monster: Part 4/4
Today we end Dale's zombie fest. Hasn't it been interesting? Remember, leave a comment for your chance to win two zombie fiction books. Drawing will be midnight tonight!! Must live in the USA to be eligible.
Now-- try not to bite your nails as you read an excerpt from Dale's novel....
Author Dale Eldon lives in a Macomb, Illinois, and takes care of a sick mother while working overnights at McDonald's. He spends his free time with loved ones and writing his butt off. Between blogging and writing anthology submission calls, he is currently working on a zombie trilogy for a series of novellas and a novel.
Now-- try not to bite your nails as you read an excerpt from Dale's novel....
What is in a zombie virus? This is not something from a supernatural realm. We are talking about a living organism that changes what we know about human anatomy. In the series, “The Walking Dead”, the zombie virus killed the host, and then reactivated a portion of the brain. While I use that template, I take it one step further.
Here is an excerpt from the first draft of Smell of the Dead:
Topher tried to wipe the blood off then Davis stood up fast. Too fast for someone who was in perfect health, way too fast for someone who is sick. He staggered a little as the coughing started to go down. He stood clutching his stomach. He removed his goggles then Topher saw his eyes. Davis had brown eyes before, but now the iris was black with the pupil pearl white. The sclera was reddish white, as if he had been doing some kid of super drug.
He looked bewildered. He twitched his head about taking in his surroundings. Reddish black blood trickled from his mouth. The smell was atrocious. Topher… confused slowly backed up. Davis sniffed at the air, and then sharply turned his head towards Topher. He looked at his old friend like he was the last meal on the planet. Davis’s lips twitched like an animal ready to devour.
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Topher tried to jog from Davis but couldn’t get much speed up. Davis breathed hard as he charged towards Topher. Davis grabbed Topher and shoved him down on the ground, biting at his neck. Davis could only clamp his mouth on cloth from the coat.
Throwing the best jabs he could, Topher fought against his friend. With no air in his lungs to cry out, he kept trying to get his friend off of him.
Finally he got a hold of the knife he used earlier. He rammed the knife into Davis’s kidney, but he didn’t budge. Stabbing him over and over, Topher was still on the bottom of a violent attack.
Topher got his arm around to in front of him and thrusted the blade into Davis’s eye socket.
Davis let out a groan losing his bearings Topher pushed him off then grabbed a small shovel from his pack. He slammed it into Davis’ face, knocking him down. As he tried to get back up, Topher continued to hit him with the shovel.
Then Topher started coughing this time. It was enough that it made him double over wrenching in pain. A tiny bit of blood spat up with some of the fibers that he had seen in the blood from Davis.
His mind went fuzzy then became clear, like surreal a dream. Forcing himself to continue on, Topher retrieved a rope from his pack and tied up Davis. Red and black fibers perturbed from Davis’ face, with cloudy blackish circles of swollen skin. Davis got back up to his feet after the final knot was tightened. Ramming shoulder first into Topher’s chest, he ran like a Cheetah through the snow packed rocky path
.
Davis was a madman.
Uncontrollable.
Topher couldn’t understand what the hell was wrong with his friend. One moment he was dead, the next some kind of monster from a Dean Koontz novel.
Davis jogged up the rocks towards the cave from which they came. Then he collapsed meeting the snow face first.
Topher wondered if Davis could get frostbite in this weather after what happened to him? At this point frostbite was the least of his worries. This was indeed a strange condition. And the fact that Dr. Michael Davis worked as a microbiologist with the CDC on the same project as Terry Marshal and Lefty Craven, the very project that forced the whole group to run, made him wonder how many of them had come in contact with the virus.
Ribs ached in pain, another cough tore its way though Topher’s lungs and pried his jaws open in a relentless rapidity of malevolent force.
With the onslaught bursting through his mouth and the hundred mile an hour wind that kicked up out of nowhere, Topher hit the ground embracing himself to keep his body from tearing itself apart.
Curled in the fetal position, covering the snow carpeted rocks inches from his mouth, Topher projected blood laced with the strange looking fibers. This was a little different then what Davis went through. There was, however, no mistaking the fact that the same virus infected him. The wind hammered his body as the chill swept down his spine. With his coat zipped up, his goggles covering his eyes, and wearing his gloves, Topher could still feel the frigid cold. The chill mixed with the sensation of hot pinpricks throughout his entire body.
Fibers penetrated his skin as his insides churned.
With the character Michael Davis, I start the story off with him sick. Has been sick for days. As he slowly turns into the undead, not only has he infected others, but the virus changes from subject to subject.
Davis works like a human laboratory. As it grows inside, terraforming his innards, the virus becomes stronger, and effects the host quicker once they are infected.
With the fibers of Morgellons Disease, they have now become a condition of the zombies. In Smell of the Dead, the zombies start out fast then slowly become slower as they deteriorate. But the trademark that will persist, are the fibers. They penetrate through the skin everywhere. They work like cactus spines that carry the infection.
The Lyme and MRSA are aliments of the turning.
Scientists in the real world are always tinkering with viruses, looking to combine them as either a weapon, or as a vaccine. There has even been talk of taking one type of bacteria and using it as a new kind of energy to power the world.
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Monday, October 24, 2011
Creating A Monster: Part 3/4
We're continuing our Monday zombie fest. Remember, leave a comment and be eligible to win two zombie books in my drawing on Monday, October 31st! Must also live in the USA.
Now, back to Dale and his zombie virus.
Now, back to Dale and his zombie virus.
Last week I talked about my upcoming story, The Smell of the Dead, and how I got the ideas for the virus used. Today I want to go into more detail about the viruses.
First off, on the subject of Morgellons Disease, this has to be one of the weirdest diseases I have ever heard off. After some research I couldn't help but see a connection between Morgellons and a zombie virus. Here are a list of the symptoms:
Skin rashes or sores that can cause intense itching
Crawling sensations on and under the skin, often compared to insects moving, stinging or biting, or worms crawling under the skin.
Fibers or crystals, threads or black stringy material in and on the skin
Behavioral changes
Black specks in lesions that do not heal
Memory loss or general brain fog with difficulty concentrating
Imagine one moment you are alive but sick. The next you are coughing up blood with strange looking fibers scattered about in the mess. Then the fibers start to protrude from your skin. And to make matters worse, they spread a virus that turns people into zombies.
MRSA
MRSA can look like a spider bite, pimple, or boil. They can quickly turn into painful abscesses that need surgical draining. The bacteria can stay confined in the skin, but can also burrow deep into the body, causing infections in the bones, bloodstream, surgical scars, heart valves, lungs, and joints.
Why or how could a zombie virus effect the body like it does? Or should I ask, why or how my virus would? This virus would effect the body on such a deep level, though it would begin with the brain, it spreads out through the entire body. The zombie virus is this story, once in the final stage, is incurable.
Lyme
What drew me to Lyme being a part of the virus, is the fact that the bacteria can hide among the DNA without being noticed. And since so many doctors don't believe it is disease, wold make spotting this kind virus very hard.
The zombie virus is made up of several different types of viruses. Lyme makes it invisible to detect, and so many doctors wouldn't even believe it exist.
Next week I will bring all of these together and show a brief scene of one the characters from The Smell of the Dead slowly turning into a zombie.
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Author Dale Eldon lives in a Macomb, Illinois, and takes care of a sick mother while working overnights at McDonald's. He spends his free time with loved ones and writing his butt off. Between blogging and writing anthology submission calls, he is currently working on a zombie trilogy for a series of novellas and a novel.
Author Dale Eldon lives in a Macomb, Illinois, and takes care of a sick mother while working overnights at McDonald's. He spends his free time with loved ones and writing his butt off. Between blogging and writing anthology submission calls, he is currently working on a zombie trilogy for a series of novellas and a novel.
Monday, October 17, 2011
Creating a Monster: Part 2/4
We're returning to our Monday, Zombie Fest. Remember, leave a comment on any of Dale's posts and be eligible to win two zombie books by David Moody and K. Bennett. Drawing Oct 31st! Must live in the USA.
Now Dale...
In my up coming zombie story, The Smell of the Dead, a group of scientists are now on the run. Their lives are in grave danger from their former employers. They make a plan to fake their deaths and take one last adventure.
Now Dale...
In my up coming zombie story, The Smell of the Dead, a group of scientists are now on the run. Their lives are in grave danger from their former employers. They make a plan to fake their deaths and take one last adventure.
High on the slopes of Mount Everest, foremost infectious disease expert Terry Marshall leads the group to their dream summit, and to a new life, one where they can live without looking over their shoulders. However, a plan is in the works. One of them isn't who they seem, and a deadly zombie virus is transforming inside one of the members.
About the Virus
The zombie virus is a combination of MRSA, Lyme disease, Morgellons Disease—or Elliot's Disease—or Worms-Under-Skin Disease, and the flu. At this point it is a mystery, but it is believed that there are several hundred different DNA strands of other viruses inside one zombie virus.
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What made me decide to use a virus instead of the supernatural trend dating back to George Romeros, was the fact I love viral story lines. Even before the movie Contagion. Secondly, my mother who has always been a health nut (in a good way) told me about Morgellons and once she mentioned the symptoms I knew I had to use it in my story.
One of my favorite authors, Brandilyn Collins, wrote a book called, Over the Edge. A wonderfully written story about Lyme Disease. Along with her book, she posts articles about people who have suffered from Lyme, giving me even more ideas on splicing it with Morgellons.
Then the last thing that sparked my interest, I am on a conservative preparedness forum. Though I am rarely on there these days, aside from a lot of pointless bickering, there a lot of good articles on things to be prepared for. One of which, viral outbreaks.
I have read one in particular from a poster who was talking about expecting high death rates over the Swine Flu (H1NI). Although there was indeed a death rate, and a larger one than the media was allowed to talk about, it wasn't near the scale that he had feared. But this article did do a great job at getting to the point on how something like a virus can destroy a world. Though that was only part of the post.
This man made a lot of good points. He is a survivalist, he is brilliant about economics, has even been on interviews discussing the current economy, and is working on a post apocalyptic story to one day publish. But, let’s just say that maybe he was wrong about which virus would cause a huge scale death toll, but not about the death toll of a viral outbreak.
In the past ten to fifteen years, scientists have been dropping dead. Some are nuclear physicists, others are microbiologists. And the deaths only seem to rise. There is something going on that we don't know about. While some of the scientists can be chalked up to natural causes or events from their own mistakes, a lot of issues raise doubts about how they died. And the fact that so many have perished makes one wonder if there wasn't foul play.
Next week I will break down Morgellons Disease, MRSA and Lyme Disease. The week after that, I will bring them together as the zombie disease.
Thank you for reading!
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Author Dale Eldon lives in a Macomb, Illinois, and takes care of a sick mother while working overnights at McDonald's. He spends his free time with loved ones and writing his butt off. Between blogging and writing anthology submission calls, he is currently working on a zombie trilogy for a series of novellas and a novel.
Monday, October 10, 2011
Monday Zombie Fest: Part 1/4
This October, we're having a Monday Zombie fest. I mean, isn't everyone half dead on Monday anyway? And, October is the time to do spooky things. We'll be talking with Dale about his eventual forthcoming novel about zombies and how he conceived the idea and made it medically feasible.
If you leave a comment on any of Dale's posts and you live in the USA, you'll be eligible to win a zombie prize pack that will include David Moody's novel Autumn: The City and K. Bennett's novel: Pay me in Flesh. The drawing will be midnight on October 31st which is also the one year anniversary of this fine blog.
We're going to start our Dale/Zombie fest with a few medical questions.
Dale asks:
I was watching the first episode of The Walking Dead with my mom, and we were talking about what if this was real? What if you awoke from a coma in a world now in an apocalyptic condition, in this case zombies.
First off, the main question that struck me was how would the lead character, Rick Grimes, go into a coma from being shot behind the shoulder? I know that when I was a teenager, I had my finger smashed in a metal drawer and passed out for 30 seconds, so it can happen, but how? The injury had nothing to do with his brain, nor did mine.
Second big question, how long can coma patients survive without the IV bag being changed?
Jordyn says:
Aaahhh... how sweet to be watching zombie stuff with your mom! That's awesome. As to your first question, the mechanism between your passing out from your finger getting smashed and Rick Grimes coma from being shot in the shoulder are likely different.
Dale, likely what you experienced was a vasovagal reaction. This can be a physical response to pain and causes low heart rate, lower blood pressure and eventual loss of consciousness. I did a post on this here that explains it more in depth. Not all people lose consciousness but may swoon. The same thing is occurring.
The mechanism behind this character's comatose state was likely shock. These two things are distinctly different. If a character is shot, he experiences blood loss. If you lose enough blood, the remaining level of red blood cells won't be enough to supply all the oxygen to each cell. This lack of the body to meet its metabolic demands is termed shock. There are many possible causes of shock but the end result is the same-- your body can't deliver oxygen to its cells.
Your brain is very sensitive to lack of oxygen and can be starved of oxygen in this manner. If the brain is deprived of enough oxygen, it can lead to the patient slipping into a coma.
How long a patient can survive without their IV bag being changed has numerous factors. How fast was the IV running? I think a better way to look at this question would be to understand how much total water the patient would need for the day.
I actually found a pretty good resource to help my followers figure this out and it takes into consideration body weight, level of exercise and climate. You can find that here: http://www.csgnetwork.com/humanh2owater.html.
Once you know that, you can determine when his IV would stop running. A normal IV rate for an adult patient to stay hydrated would be 100-150ml/hr. IV fluids come in liter bags containing 1000ml so this would last approx 6-10 hours. After that point, he would no longer be receiving hydration.
Probably after three days, your character is going to be in dire straits. You can read more about how long you can live without water here: http://health.howstuffworks.com/diseases-conditions/death-dying/live-without-food-and-water2.htm.
What other thoughts do you have for Dale?
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Author Dale Eldon lives in a Macomb, Illinois, and takes care of a sick mother while working overnights at McDonald's. He spends his free time with loved ones and writing his butt off. Between blogging and writing anthology submission calls, he is currently working on a zombie trilogy for a series of novellas and a novel.
If you leave a comment on any of Dale's posts and you live in the USA, you'll be eligible to win a zombie prize pack that will include David Moody's novel Autumn: The City and K. Bennett's novel: Pay me in Flesh. The drawing will be midnight on October 31st which is also the one year anniversary of this fine blog.
We're going to start our Dale/Zombie fest with a few medical questions.
Dale asks:
I was watching the first episode of The Walking Dead with my mom, and we were talking about what if this was real? What if you awoke from a coma in a world now in an apocalyptic condition, in this case zombies.
First off, the main question that struck me was how would the lead character, Rick Grimes, go into a coma from being shot behind the shoulder? I know that when I was a teenager, I had my finger smashed in a metal drawer and passed out for 30 seconds, so it can happen, but how? The injury had nothing to do with his brain, nor did mine.
Second big question, how long can coma patients survive without the IV bag being changed?
Jordyn says:
Aaahhh... how sweet to be watching zombie stuff with your mom! That's awesome. As to your first question, the mechanism between your passing out from your finger getting smashed and Rick Grimes coma from being shot in the shoulder are likely different.
Dale, likely what you experienced was a vasovagal reaction. This can be a physical response to pain and causes low heart rate, lower blood pressure and eventual loss of consciousness. I did a post on this here that explains it more in depth. Not all people lose consciousness but may swoon. The same thing is occurring.
The mechanism behind this character's comatose state was likely shock. These two things are distinctly different. If a character is shot, he experiences blood loss. If you lose enough blood, the remaining level of red blood cells won't be enough to supply all the oxygen to each cell. This lack of the body to meet its metabolic demands is termed shock. There are many possible causes of shock but the end result is the same-- your body can't deliver oxygen to its cells.
Your brain is very sensitive to lack of oxygen and can be starved of oxygen in this manner. If the brain is deprived of enough oxygen, it can lead to the patient slipping into a coma.
How long a patient can survive without their IV bag being changed has numerous factors. How fast was the IV running? I think a better way to look at this question would be to understand how much total water the patient would need for the day.
I actually found a pretty good resource to help my followers figure this out and it takes into consideration body weight, level of exercise and climate. You can find that here: http://www.csgnetwork.com/humanh2owater.html.
Once you know that, you can determine when his IV would stop running. A normal IV rate for an adult patient to stay hydrated would be 100-150ml/hr. IV fluids come in liter bags containing 1000ml so this would last approx 6-10 hours. After that point, he would no longer be receiving hydration.
Probably after three days, your character is going to be in dire straits. You can read more about how long you can live without water here: http://health.howstuffworks.com/diseases-conditions/death-dying/live-without-food-and-water2.htm.
What other thoughts do you have for Dale?
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Author Dale Eldon lives in a Macomb, Illinois, and takes care of a sick mother while working overnights at McDonald's. He spends his free time with loved ones and writing his butt off. Between blogging and writing anthology submission calls, he is currently working on a zombie trilogy for a series of novellas and a novel.
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